{"id":166,"date":"2008-11-29T21:02:00","date_gmt":"2008-11-29T21:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/heresyblog.com\/?p=166"},"modified":"2014-12-11T21:01:36","modified_gmt":"2014-12-11T21:01:36","slug":"ingen-konsensus-om-klima","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/?p=166","title":{"rendered":"Ingen konsensus om klima"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"serendipity_imageComment_right\" style=\"width: 300px\">\n<div class=\"serendipity_imageComment_img\"><!-- s9ymdb:72 --><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"serendipity_image_right\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\"  src=\"http:\/\/heresyblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/billeder\/Klima.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/politiken.dk\/indland\/article605268.ece \" class=\"broken_link\">Politiken<\/a>: <i>Kun 62 pct. af danskerne mener som videnskaben, at klima\u00e6ndringer prim\u00e6rt skyldes mennesket.<br \/>\nDer skal mere end 2.000 enige forskere i FN\u2019s Klimapanel og talrige toppolitikere til at overbevise danskerne om, at den globale opvarmning prim\u00e6rt er en f\u00f8lge af menneskets udledning af CO-2 og andre drivhusgasser.<br \/>\n(\u2026)<br \/>\n\u00bbDet er ret overraskende\u00ab, siger Ove Kaj Pedersen, professor i statskundskab p\u00e5 Copenhagen Business School.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00c9n ting er at ingen har draget drivhuseffekten i tvivl, og det g\u00f8r unders\u00f8gelsen bag heller ikke. Drivhuseffekten er en kendsgerning, men det har ikke s\u00e5 meget at g\u00f8re med sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5let om hvordan menneskets udledning af CO2 p\u00e5 virker klimaet, og hvilke konsekvenser \u00e6ndringer i klimaet har. Man kan ogs\u00e5 undre sig over hvad en professor i statskundskab kan bidrage med til det sp\u00f8rgsm\u00e5l.<\/p>\n<p>Noget helt andet er p\u00e5standen om at \u201dvidenskaben\u201d skulle sige noget andet. Videnskaben er ikke en fast st\u00f8rrelse, og p\u00e5standen om konsensus i videnskaben er en skr\u00f8ne. Ikke nok med at nogen af videnskabsfolkene har truet med s\u00f8gsm\u00e5l fordi de mod deres vilje er medregnet i FN\u2019s klimapanels konsensus, s\u00e5 blev der sidste \u00e5r lavet <a href=\"http:\/\/www.prnewswire.com\/news-releases\/news-releases-list\/cgi-bin\/stories.pl?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=\/www\/story\/11-08-2007\/0004701174&amp;EDATE\" class=\"broken_link\">en rundsp\u00f8rge<\/a> mellem nogen af deltagerne i dette \u201dkonsensus\u201d: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>During the month of October, DemandDebate.com polled each of the 345 U.S. scientists listed as contributing authors and reviewers of the IPCC&#8217;s &#8220;Climate Change 2007: The Physical Basis&#8221; with a six-question survey on climate change. Fifty-four IPCC scientists completed the survey, including several of the most prominent global warming alarmists and several IPCC lead authors. (\u2026)<\/p>\n<p>When asked about the ideal climate, only 14% said that the ideal climate was cooler than the present climate. Sixty-one percent said that there is no such thing as an ideal climate. (\u2026)<\/p>\n<p>Another notable result is that an astounding 20% of those surveyed said that human activity is the principal driver of climate change.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p> S\u00e5 n\u00e5r over 6 ud af 10 danskere mener mennesket er skyld i klima\u00e6ndringerne, s\u00e5 er det alts\u00e5 en del mere end de 2 ud af 10 klimaforskerne i FN\u2019s klimapanel, der mener det samme. Endnu f\u00e6rre af dem mener \u00e5benbart at klimaet b\u00f8r v\u00e6re koldere end det er nu. Men det ser endnu v\u00e6rre ud for det videnskabelige konsensus i FN, og det kan der l\u00e6ses mere om <a href=\"http:\/\/climaterealist.blogspot.de\/2008\/09\/ipcc-2500-scientists-myth.html\">her<\/a>, hvor de g\u00e5r lidt dybere ind i hvordan den seneste klimarapport er blevet til.<\/p>\n<p>De 2.000 enige forskere er m\u00e5ske slet ikke s\u00e5 enige alligevel, og enigheden i videnskaben er m\u00e5ske heller ikke s\u00e5 stor at det g\u00f8r noget, n\u00e5r 31.000 forskere har skrevet under p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.petitionproject.org\/\" >Global Warming Petition Project <\/a>, som i al sin simpelhed lyder s\u00e5dan:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind. <\/p>\n<p>There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth&#8217;s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>L\u00e6ngere beh\u00f8ver det ikke v\u00e6re.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e5ske b\u00f8r vi lige kaste et blik p\u00e5 temperaturudviklingen de sidste 10 \u00e5r.<\/p>\n<p><center><a class=\"serendipity_image_link\" href=\"http:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2009\/07\/08\/g-8-summit-drops-co2-targets-keeps-2-degree-temperature-goal\/\"><!-- s9ymdb:71 --><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"serendipity_image_center\" width=\"594\" height=\"393\" style=\"border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;\" src=\"http:\/\/heresyblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/billeder\/temp-trend-from-diatribes-uah-1997-2008.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>Temperaturen er alts\u00e5 ikke steget, men faldet. N\u00e5r der vises temperaturkurver, s\u00e5 stopper kurven n\u00e6sten altid i 1998, som er det varmeste \u00e5r i meget lang tid, og de starter som oftest i 1978, som var det koldeste i mange \u00e5r. Resultatet kommer un\u00e6gtelig til at ligne en meget kraftig stigning, men kigger vi efter 1998, s\u00e5 er det et andet billede, der tegner sig. Det ser ud til at temperaturen er stabiliseret, men at der p\u00e5 det seneste er blevet koldere. M\u00e5ske er det en tendens; vi ved det ikke endnu.<\/p>\n<p>Der er ogs\u00e5 meldinger om at gletscherne vokser, senest <a href=\" http:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2008\/11\/27\/glaciers-in-norway-alaska-growing-again\/ \" >meldinger fra Norge<\/a>, men ogs\u00e5 fra mange andre steder. Gletscherne har \u00f8jensynligt v\u00e6ret i tilbagegang de sidste 150 \u00e5r, som der vises <a href=\"http:\/\/wattsupwiththat.com\/2008\/11\/29\/al-gore-does-oprah-was-anybody-watching\/ \" >her<\/a>, hvor Al Gores p\u00e5stande efterpr\u00f8ves (l\u00e6s: tilbagevises). P\u00e5standene der omtales er temperaturudviklingen, sammenh\u00e6ngen mellem CO2 og temperatur, gletscherne, afsmeltningen af Nordpolen og p\u00e5standen om at der er flere orkaner.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00e5r det kommer til stykket, s\u00e5 anerkender jeg fuldt ud at der er en risiko for at vores adf\u00e6rd p\u00e5virker klimaet p\u00e5 en negativ m\u00e5de. Skal vi g\u00f8re noget seri\u00f8st ved CO2-udledningen, s\u00e5 er  <a href=\"http:\/\/heresyblog.com\/?p=19\">atomkraft vejen frem<\/a>. Det er b\u00e5de \u00f8konomisk fornuftigt, milj\u00f8venligt, ogs\u00e5 tager det h\u00e5nd om de mulige problemer ved CO2. Man kan d\u00e5rligt \u00f8nske sig mere.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Politiken: Kun 62 pct. af danskerne mener som videnskaben, at klima\u00e6ndringer prim\u00e6rt skyldes mennesket. Der skal mere end 2.000 enige forskere i FN\u2019s Klimapanel og talrige toppolitikere til at overbevise danskerne om, at den globale opvarmning prim\u00e6rt er en f\u00f8lge af menneskets udledning af CO-2 og andre drivhusgasser. (\u2026) \u00bbDet er ret overraskende\u00ab, siger Ove&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=166"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2571,"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166\/revisions\/2571"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=166"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=166"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/heresyblog.dk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=166"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}